Coordination of Care Standards
- Yaron Derman
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6 years 10 months ago #2759
by Yaron Derman
Replied by Yaron Derman on topic Coordination of Care Standards
Hi Ken,
Regarding the eConsult FHIR spec for the OntarioMD/OTN/eHealth Ontario proof of concept, the payload of the consult was pure FHIR. The resources used in the entire end-to-end eConsult lifecycle (request-respond-more info-close the eConsult) were:
1. ReferralRequest
2. Practitioner
3. Organization
4. Patient
5. Composition - this is where the payload (the consult question and response) was stored
6. Document Reference - this allowed the requestor to append a URL to an attachment (which was uploaded to the OTN eConsult platform) to to provide further context to the eConsult
7. Bundle
8. OperationOutcome
As you mentioned, Ontario does have a published CDA-like clinical document standard and some production assets that are using CDA and pan-Canadian CDA standards. Going forward, especially for green field (as Attila suggested), you can expect to see a lot of FHIR in Ontario. One example of this might be eReferrals (of which eConsults is a subset).
Regarding the eConsult FHIR spec for the OntarioMD/OTN/eHealth Ontario proof of concept, the payload of the consult was pure FHIR. The resources used in the entire end-to-end eConsult lifecycle (request-respond-more info-close the eConsult) were:
1. ReferralRequest
2. Practitioner
3. Organization
4. Patient
5. Composition - this is where the payload (the consult question and response) was stored
6. Document Reference - this allowed the requestor to append a URL to an attachment (which was uploaded to the OTN eConsult platform) to to provide further context to the eConsult
7. Bundle
8. OperationOutcome
As you mentioned, Ontario does have a published CDA-like clinical document standard and some production assets that are using CDA and pan-Canadian CDA standards. Going forward, especially for green field (as Attila suggested), you can expect to see a lot of FHIR in Ontario. One example of this might be eReferrals (of which eConsults is a subset).
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- Attila Farkas
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6 years 10 months ago #2758
by Attila Farkas
Replied by Attila Farkas on topic Coordination of Care Standards
Hi Ken,
Infoway did some work to bring the Consolidated CDA (C-CDA) template package from US to Canada about two years ago. We enhanced MsgBuilder to generate APIs that bind the templates to the Canadian header but to the best of my knowledge there hasn't been any study undertaken to assess the alignment to the Canadian coordination of care use cases.
For green field opportunities or where no existing de-facto standards exist, the advice would be the use of FHIR with bindings to appropriate SNOMED CT subsets.
Attila
Infoway did some work to bring the Consolidated CDA (C-CDA) template package from US to Canada about two years ago. We enhanced MsgBuilder to generate APIs that bind the templates to the Canadian header but to the best of my knowledge there hasn't been any study undertaken to assess the alignment to the Canadian coordination of care use cases.
For green field opportunities or where no existing de-facto standards exist, the advice would be the use of FHIR with bindings to appropriate SNOMED CT subsets.
Attila
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- Finnie Flores
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6 years 11 months ago #2755
by Finnie Flores
Replied by Finnie Flores on topic Coordination of Care Standards
Hi Ken,
We have several members on this community from Ontario so I will leave it with them to respond to your question.
Finnie
We have several members on this community from Ontario so I will leave it with them to respond to your question.
Finnie
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- Ken Stevens
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6 years 11 months ago - 6 years 11 months ago #2754
by Ken Stevens
Replied by Ken Stevens on topic Coordination of Care Standards
Thanks Finnie!
I don't think we need to do a survey right now, though it would be interesting.
Do you know what the plans are for Ontario? I heard something about OntarioMD and OTN piloting a FHIR based CCD for the eConsult initiative... But I've also seen a CDA-based CCD from eHealth Ontario (many years ago.) Just curious what direction Canadians are going for CCD standards, and in particular what the plan is for Ontario.
Full disclosure, my experience with CDA-based CCD in the U.S. is that it doesn't achieve interoperability and so I would advise against going with a CDA-based approach for CCD..
Ken
I don't think we need to do a survey right now, though it would be interesting.
Do you know what the plans are for Ontario? I heard something about OntarioMD and OTN piloting a FHIR based CCD for the eConsult initiative... But I've also seen a CDA-based CCD from eHealth Ontario (many years ago.) Just curious what direction Canadians are going for CCD standards, and in particular what the plan is for Ontario.
Full disclosure, my experience with CDA-based CCD in the U.S. is that it doesn't achieve interoperability and so I would advise against going with a CDA-based approach for CCD..
Ken
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- Finnie Flores
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6 years 11 months ago #2751
by Finnie Flores
Replied by Finnie Flores on topic Coordination of Care Standards
Hi Ken,
Back in SCWG 2 days, we maintained a list of CDA adoption for use in referral, discharge summary, etc. by jurisdictions. I don't believe that link is available anymore, but we may be able to request access to it. Is that the type of information you are looking for? If not, we will be happy to facilitate a survey in the Coordination of Care community if this is something of interest to others as well.
Finnie
Back in SCWG 2 days, we maintained a list of CDA adoption for use in referral, discharge summary, etc. by jurisdictions. I don't believe that link is available anymore, but we may be able to request access to it. Is that the type of information you are looking for? If not, we will be happy to facilitate a survey in the Coordination of Care community if this is something of interest to others as well.
Finnie
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- Ken Stevens
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6 years 11 months ago #2748
by Ken Stevens
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Has anyone done a survey of coordination of care document standards in use in Canada? Is that available on the Infoway website somewhere? If documents aren't moving yet, are there plans to use a particular standard for this in Canada?
Thanks,
Ken Stevens
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Co-Chair Interoperability and Standards Committee, ITAC Health
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Thanks,
Ken Stevens
VP Healthcare, Intelliware
Co-Chair Interoperability and Standards Committee, ITAC Health
c.416.576.4096
intelliware.com/healthcare
Delivery matters.™
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